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- From: sschaem@teleport.com (Stephan Schaem)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: >>>>>>> The Future: Amiga goes P
- Date: 3 Jan 1996 12:51:10 GMT
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- John Hendrikx (john.hendrikx@grafix.xs4all.nl) wrote:
- : In a message of 22 Dec 95 Th.huber wrote to All:
-
- : >> don't use these are likely to break on 68020+ machines with VBR!=$0
- : >> anyway so they weren't really 680x0 compatible in the first place. I
- : >> haven't encountered a single commercial game which doesn't crash with
- : >> VBR!=$0.
-
- : Th> VBR is known to most dirty c0ders since the 68010 came out.
-
- : Known, maybe, but nobody seems to USE it. Why don't they save themselves the
- : trouble and use SetIntVector() instead...
-
- trouble? nha its no trouble to now the VBR adr.
-
- : >> Th> Game programmers would be happy with a hardwarestandard on future
- : >> Yeah, sure, so they can bash it some more and kill this new line of
- : >> Amiga's as well.
-
- : Th> It`s not hardware-c0derz, that ruin the amiga, the amiga ruins itsself
- : Th> by expanding the system:
-
- : Hardware-banging ruins the Amiga, period.
-
- You mean the amiga would have been better off without games like turrican?
- The demo scene? The toaster?
- Bull, the amiga would have died before the A3000 would have been on the
- drawing board.
- But its stupid to say that the amiga ruin itself by expanding ... crazy
- The amiga stay stagnant for way too long, and lost its edge HW wise &
- kept a high price.
- So Its demo like 9 fingers, games like turrican, development like BSD
- , the toaster that ruin the amiga image?
-
- If AT dont realease low level info on their new model I will really think
- about upgrading... I wonder how BSD or linux will be ported if they
- shutdown such vital information.
-
- All this is crazy...
-
- : Th> (gfx-cards: goodbye PAL, welcome to the horror of WBemulations.)
-
- : In is only horror because WB was never meant to work with TrueColor screens.
- : Also games don't work on gfx-cards, if they followed the OS rules (although I
- : have to admit this is hard in the current OS if you want to do a decent game)
- : everything would run quite nicely on a gfx-card.
-
- Ok for PC type games , but console type game have a VERY hard time
- living in an OS env. You loose your sprite, copper, playfeild, blitter
- .. what your gonna do? write a doom clone or a sim city 4000?
-
- : Th> I changed my mind in this point. As the there`s no perspective of a
- : Th> mindblasting new Amigahardware, it`s probably the best to make the OS
- : Th> portable, so I can still use it on PCs.
-
- : At the moment we can't expect to see new mindblasting Amiga Hardware, but give
- : the PowerAmiga's some time to become common in the Amiga world and AT might
- : have the resources to give us something cool later after Amiga is back on its
- : feet again.
-
- I wish AT would introduce a NEW multimedia machine 'based' on the Amiga OS
- with tomrrow HW(waiting a year to have a year back apple HW is silly, no?).
- Something in the range of the new upcoming SGI lowend but with an
- affordable price tag. They can keep making A4000, A1200 for all I care but
- if they want to recapture the amiga spirite they better go forward
- and not look backward to create a new machine.
- I can wait 2 year for something radical, been waiting since the A3000 came
- out :)
-
- Stephan
-